Your question was to what extent does the teaching of ethics prepare people for what they will find in actual newsrooms? I think there are three quick things I'd say.
Firstly, our training is -- I think the best training is very practical oriented. We do similar things to the things Angela has been describing, we're trying to shift the websites we produce to be out there that people can actually see, in other words they're produced in the real world and they have to manage all the risks and difficulties that that requires. I think that that brings ethical dilemmas home to people in a way that classroom teaching doesn't necessarily do. I think you can actually warn people, and we do tend to warn people, what they are likely to find in red top newsrooms. Not very many of our post grads particularly go to red top newsrooms but we will tell them what it's likely to be like.
The last thing I would say is that wherever this is going to be, we try to have teachers who have experienced some of these dilemmas. You had evidence I think two days ago from David Leigh, who was giving you descriptions of the kind of dilemmas he does with the Master's students on the investigative journalism course that we run, and I think the more people actually live dilemmas, the more vivid it will become for people and that's the most effective form of teaching in my view.