Out of that process, yes, but I don't think you'll -- it's not -- well, I can answer on behalf of the press of Surrey: they do get a lot of exposure to us. We have arranged editors events. We have events with journalists -- local journalists where we meet with them and brief them. In a way, that's our daily bread and butter, that sort of relationship. This was to identify a particular need where we hadn't had exposure to national journalists, and that process -- we would pay for the food and then everybody else would pay for the drinks. I've attended two of those in 2009 and 2010, didn't drink any alcohol, drank soft drinks, stayed for about an hour on each of those, let the crime reporters listen to what they had to say about the relationship with the Surrey Police, found it useful.
In 2010, as part of the chief officer group, we reviewed the future of those. The purpose to develop relationship and understanding, we had done so. We knew all of them. We had done various briefings. The situation -- I think the context, public perception around austerity and socialising had changed, and therefore we made a conscious decision that we wouldn't carry on doing those social briefings. If an operation arrived tomorrow where I thought there was the benefit of a formal CRA briefing, I would certainly do it.