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Could I just say something in the light of Mr Lewis's evidence very briefly?
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Yes.
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First of all, with regard to Farrer & Co, the only report they commissioned, that by Tectrix, was a desktop exercise based on publicly available material.
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Thank you.
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It did not involve any surveillance.
Secondly, the physical and video surveillance which Mr Lewis has referred to was commissioned by the News of the World, and News International apologises to Mr Lewis and his family for that.
He raises in his statement a point which didn't come out in his oral evidence, a question as to whether or not his phone had been hacked. We are not aware of any evidence that Mr Lewis's phone has been hacked.
Apart from that, Mr Lewis's statement and indeed his oral evidence, I think it's fair to say, contains a number of expressions of opinion and comment and we don't accept those.
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No, I understand that, but ...
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Yes.
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I didn't feel it appropriate to stop them.
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No, no, not at all.
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No, I understand. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you, Mr Luce.
What are we doing now, Mr Jay?
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Sir, it looks like a three-day week.
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Actually, Mr Caplan will be delighted about that because he was complaining that last week and this week made eight days, whereas it's actually only going to make seven.
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Yes.
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Yes, all right.
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Mr Staines has replied -- whether it's an amicable reply, I don't know yet -- to our section 21 notice. At the moment I think his summonsed to appear before you tomorrow afternoon. He wishes to make submissions about the restriction order you've made, but I think he's also seeking funding from the Inquiry in order to do that, if I've correctly understood him. I can imagine what your response might be to that suggestion.
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Let's take this in turn.
Mr Staines -- do we have his response?
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It's been skim-read by me, but not properly ingested yet.
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As regards arguing about the restriction notice, I'd need to know whether somebody -- I think probably a member of the public may be able to argue about it on Scott v Scott grounds.
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Yes.
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Because there's a rather interesting decision in the Court of Appeal in a case called GIO, which does allow members of the public to object to things that are documents put before the court but then not seen by the public, but I'm not sure that he would fall within the criteria of those who could be funded to argue that.
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I'm almost certain, sir, that he wouldn't qualify.
I don't think it's right that I summarise what he's saying in his section 21 statement.
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All right, but the answer is that we're not going to get that done for tomorrow?
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No.
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So I will discharge the requirement that he attend to give evidence tomorrow and I will ask that he make such application as he wishes to make, although in the meantime consideration can be given to whether, A, it is lawful or, B, it is appropriate that he receive public funding to support that application.
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Yes.
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Is that sufficient for the present purposes?
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It is.
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Thank you. Is there anything else?
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Sir, the agenda for next week, or the timetable for next week. On Monday the witnesses will be Mr Francis Aldhouse, Charlotte Harris, Peter Burden. Their statements have been enable available to the core participants, as indeed have Tuesday's witnesses, who are Stephen Nott, Chris Atkins and David Leigh. Wednesday the 7th we are taking off.
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Yes.
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On Thursday there is an academics day. We'll be calling up to seven academics to assist the Inquiry.
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That will be quite hard work.
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How many we call, I think, is being put under or given active consideration.
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I have no problem about them being -- I think the phrase in Australia is "hot-tubbed". It is. Don't laugh. In other words, that some of them can -- they don't all need to be individual, they can be together.
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We were thinking along those lines. Exactly how this is going to be orchestrated is still being considered, but that seems the most appropriate way, some sort of interactive academics day.
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Correct.
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On Friday it's going to be less interactive, because we're going to call Mr Thomas.
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So we're doing four days next week, so Mr Caplan gets his way, seven days but seven days week by week. So any set of weeks, one only has seven days.
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Yes.
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I don't promise to keep that. It's seven days per fortnight at the moment, but I'm not bound by that.
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Indeed, the week commencing 12 December is going to be a four-day week.
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Oh, all right. So I shouldn't have made the crack.
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Only because the following week, that commencing 19 December, obviously the last week before Christmas, is perforce a three-day week. 12 December is largely a News International week, if I can so describe it.
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All right. Thank you very much. Has everybody got that? Thank you very much.
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(The hearing adjourned until 10 o'clock on Monday, 5 December 2011)