I think that -- "The press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact". If you were to rely upon -- okay, let me take the Daily Mirror at the moment. The Daily Mirror is a paper I worked for and obviously is much closer to my political view than the Mail would be, but I think if you only ever see stories in that newspaper that are bad for the current government, then that is not distinguishing between fact, conjecture and comment as a strategic decision of the newspaper.
What I'd say -- the reason why I often do concentrate on the Mail in regard to this is, one, because it's the most extreme example, because if you take somebody like Rupert Murdoch, who is routinely described as the most powerful media figure in the country, Rupert Murdoch is a powerful media figure right around the world. His focus upon Britain and upon his British titles is probably fairly small. The Mail is an extremely successful newspaper but it is utterly the product of one person. There's nothing goes in that newspaper that isn't decided pretty much by him. Whatever is written today about my evidence to you is probably being decided by him this morning, and whoever is here to cover it for him, that's what they'll do. And that is how that newspaper works.
You heard from Mr Peppiatt yesterday the impact that has upon some other newspapers, because within the media industry it's seen as an incredibly successful product, which it is, commercially it is. They do actually have a lot of journalists, they do invest in journalism.
My point is that once they decide that a person or an organisation or a profession, social workers or people who are on strike today or anybody who had anything to do with Tony Blair, once they have decided, as it were, they are one of his targets, then you will never ever ever read anything other than negativity about that person or organisation in that newspaper, to my mind in breach of a PCC code which says that you should distinguish between fact, comment and conjecture.
In other words, they only take the facts that fit the agenda, and then they fuse them with comment and conjecture, and then they drive their agenda through every single -- it's not just headlines, it's pictures, it's the whole lot.