The transcripts of the official inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the press.
Yes. It's Mr Sherborne, I think, then Mr Caplan and Mr Rusbridger, and then finally Mr Rhodri Davies.
The statements we were going to read in yesterday, which add up to 81. Some of them are replies by editors to recent Section 21 notices. Others are more heterogeneous, but I haven't been notified of any objections.
I haven't checked with all of them.
Yes. I imagine the submissions are going to be at a higher level of generality. I don't know that, having had no idea what topics are going to be addressed orally, but I suspect it's going to make no difference whatsoever.
We can do that first thing tomorrow.
Now 81 statements which we were planning to read in today, but we've had a request from at least one core participant that that be delayed until tomorrow on the basis that they say there wasn't time to read them all.
Great, that's very clear. Thank you very much, Deputy Assistant Commissioner.
Victims next. You're taking the story forward from when you last gave evidence. Can I ask you, please, to summarise paragraphs 42 to 46?
You say that initially there was a challenge to Operation Tuleta's request for information about the apparent handling of the stolen phones and subsequent downgrades, but now there's a willingness to assist.
Paragraph 41, please, it's a similar pattern, I think, with the co-operation of the MSC. It's now only lawyers who --
Mm. Thank you.
Paragraph 40, one mobile telephone theft took place in Manchester and another in South West London, and this may suggest that this is more than an isolated local issue, but as you're careful to say, you're at a very early stage in the investigation.
At the moment, as you say, their identities are unknown to you but they're likely to exist in different parts of the country.
Paragraph 38, tell us about that, please, and then lead into paragraph 39.
Thank you. The MSC have been one of the sources of material for Operation Tuleta purposes. Then paragraph 36, you explain what happened in April of this year. Can I ask you, please, to tell us about that?
Okay. May we move forward to Operation Tuleta, and I ask you, please, first of all in paragraph 33 to summarise where we are. It's paragraphs 33 and 34.
Thank you. In paragraph 31 you refer to an internal review the MSC have conducted of their own volition, but that has yielded no further evidence for you; is that right?
Thank you. In paragraph 27, further lines of inquiry may result in further arrests.
In paragraph 28 now, Deputy Assistant Commissioner, can you explain what's happening with Elveden and the MSC, in particular the Sun newspaper?
Thank you. On 11 July -- obviously only two weeks ago or slightly less -- following the arrests of one employee of Trinity Mirror and one employee of Express News Group, letters were served on the head of legal for those newspapers requesting specific evidential material. Can I ask you, please, to ...
Thank you. In paragraph 25, the assessments you've made to date, could you explain those to us, in particular the public interest aspect?
Again, in the same way as you carefully dealt with paragraph 22, can you do the same, please, for paragraph 24?
Thank you. And paragraph 23, you say that co-operation from the MSC has enabled you to identify the stories to which the News International payments related, and further investigation has enabled you to identify stories in the Daily Mirror, the Sunday Mirror, the Daily Star and the Sunday Star that ...
Thank you. I'm going to ask you now to deal with paragraph 22 in some detail.
The CPS are continuing to advise. There's a range of offences there, which of course will be familiar to the Inquiry and to criminal lawyers, but the money-laundering, apart from the well-known corruption offences and new Bribery Act offences, and before the Bribery Act, it was of course the ...
We're moving forward to Operation Elveden, which starts at paragraph 18 of your statement. May I invite you, please, to sum up the position there. It's paragraph 19.
Unless there's anything else you'd like to add?
You make it clear there that the alleged offence relates to money-laundering matters, and the bail has been extended to tomorrow's date.
Paragraphs 16 and 17, I think you've already covered that satisfactorily?
We can just note that.
Paragraph 15, the non-journalist; you want to change paragraph 14 to paragraph 13?
Thank you. The perverting the course of justice matter, I think we all understand what that relates to and who the individuals are, but you've been careful not to name them. It's summarised in paragraph 14; is that right?
In terms of the resources, you observe in paragraph 10 that the Management Standards Committee have committed significant resources to assist these investigations, continuing to co-operation and disclose documentation; a professional and productive relationship and not without its challenges.
Operation Weeting now, paragraph 12. You explain the background. In paragraph ...
Thank you. You explain in paragraph 9 in mid-May of this year there was a development in your investigation, which appears to have caused the MSC to reconsider their relationship with you. And there was a pause for several weeks in the voluntary disclosure material to you. But a meeting ...
Can you help us with paragraph 8. Mr Lewis and Mr Greenberg no longer attend the regular meetings. Can you remember about when that change took place?
Thank you. To date, as you explain in paragraph 6, you've primarily been seeking the co-operation of News International. Indeed the subsidiary company, NGN as well, I suppose. But your dealings with the Management Standards Committee, you explain that at the end of June of this year, a Mr ...
Paragraph 5, could I ask you to speak to that, please?
Paragraph 4 of the statement, first of all. You continue to lead all the operations. These, of course, are Operations Weeting, Elveden and Tuleta; is that right?
Deputy Assistant Commissioner, you've kindly provided the Inquiry with a further witness statement dated 20 July under the standard statement of truth; is that right?
Sir, first of all, we're going to have an update from DAC Akers, please.
10 o'clock Monday.
You don't see any of those people on the list we were looking at earlier. Those were all celebrities, weren't they?
We've heard of that one.
The touchstone is truth or falsity. I understand where you're coming from. But if sometimes things have to be done, what you're telling us is sometimes the rules have to be bent or ignored, don't they, in order to get to your higher goal of establishing truth ...
Sometimes things have to be done to gather evidence. Could you help us, please, with what those things are?
Yes, please do.
Finally, Mr Sprake, have there ever been circumstances in which you've had to sack any of your contractors?
From the newspaper?
The job you were telling us about, the surveillance of the senior police officer, who tipped you off?
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