Thank you, sir.

Very briefly. Basically on the illegal activity which I believe happened to me by parking a bus outside the home of the road where I lived. I'd like to also say that we've already settled with Sun newspaper a libel case where I was accused of having a ...

Yes.

That's correct, sir.

Yes.

I can't prove, you know, if it was done by phone hacking or it was Mr Matthews or it was someone else. All I know is it ends up in the story of Mr Thurlbeck.

No, not directly. Only to say that we believe there was hacking going on, our movements were -- only could have been known in that sense of the word by where we'd have been at a port of call at that time and so on. No direct evidence, sir, on ...

Yes.

Whether he went into the centre and got a copy or whether he got a copy from someone else, I don't know, but the fact is that we've still got the CCTV and the person don't just go into the bins, he takes the bin bags away ...

We had our annual general meeting each year. The caretaker of the Nevis Centre, which is a municipal centre, where we hold our conference, said he was getting phone calls throughout the week leading up to the AGM asking questions about did we have a hospitality room and what kind ...

Fort William, underneath the Ben Nevis mountain.

No, I have no evidence, no.

I'm not certain, no, if we actually complained to the PCC. We may well have done. We've certainly got a case against Thomsons at the moment, Cruises, on the basis that we believe a member of their staff divulged information, confidential information, on a client's integrity, and ...

No, not at all. I really can't see what the actual -- you can see what the story's about, it's just to humiliate you, basically saying you shouldn't be going on holiday and shouldn't be going shopping and shouldn't be having a private life in ...

She was out shopping, she wasn't, actually, but that's what you do when you go on holiday.

Yes.

Yes.

That's right.

The actual picture concerned was about three or four days into the vacation on the island of Aruba, where they followed me and my partner, taking pictures, obviously to humiliate me and completely to be intrusive.

If you go to Google search, he operates as a private investigator/photographer operating from Florida in USA.

Yes. On 14 January, our first port of call was the lovely island of Grenada. Myself and three other colleagues with me who was leaving the ship, you hand your passport in when you go onto the ship and they give you a card, like a credit card, which is ...

Yes I do.

No, the 13th.

No, I day I fly out.

13 January.

That's -- behind me is the bus parked up. They're two of the people that was smartly dressed. There was another person as well that was smartly dressed. There was two people with television cameras, either side of me face, pointing to me face. The bus driver, who was ...

Yes.

Video.

He walked straight up to me and stood on me feet and his words were, "What's it like then not getting to work? You stopped people getting to work this week, how about a taste of your own medicine?" with someone taking pictures who I found out to be ...

Well, that actual picture where that Sun bus is there in the picture is outside Woodford station on the Central Line. What they actually did was that we had a strike which was on -- previous to 13 June on the days leading up, I think it was on the Tuesday ...

Yes.

Yes.

That's right.

And his home address.

Either way, why would they ring the DVLA up and ask for information?

That may be the case, and I'm sort of no detective to find that out, but it would be very strange that someone on a scooter would actually find a scooter in Hackney, out of all the places in London, to find out where its premises were.

Yes. We've asked the police to see if there was proof that our phones had been hacked. They said that it's still under investigation under Operation Weeting at this moment in time. It's just strange that this particular day I was picked up by my personal secretary ...

That's correct, yes.

Yes.

He wasn't called. He was prepared to give evidence and we also complained to the Information Commissioner as well.

Yes.

Yes, he did.

Yeah. Putting two and two together, they obviously had the picture, they had the person who picked me up, it may have been someone, a member of the public who had seen me on the back of a scooter going to work but they didn't know who the individual ...

Yes.

That's the scooter and the motorbike -- the scooter concerned with the glazed out registration numbers concerned.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. My personal assistant, who has been my personal assistant for ten years, and the previous General Secretary Jimmy Knapp's assistant for some eight years, he's been a member of our union with unblemished record, at home one afternoon, early evening, when there was a knock on the ...

Yes.