It is, it's the second or -- yes, certainly a further witness statement. And the following are submissions, sir, from Trans Media Watch, from Carnegie Trust, from the NUJ on press regulation, a letter from Eaves, Equality Now, EVAW, Object.

The following are all submissions: from Dr David Levy of ...

There's the witness statement of David Seymour, the letter from Herbert Smith in relation to the witness statement of David Seymour, the second witness statement of Ian Hislop, the witness statement of Julian Assange and exhibits, the witness statement of Stephen Purdew, the witness statement of Professor Thomas Gibbons ...

Sir, may I just add that the Inquiry proposes to read in a number of statements and submissions. I hope you've had a copy of that. Those have been provided to the Inquiry and their publication has been agreed with the core participants. They'll be made available on ...

Thank you. Is there anything either of you would like to add?

Ms Young, in your statement you place an emphasis on the need for the application of professional judgment and you would have concerns about any rigidity that prevented the exercise of judgment in that way. Is there anything else that you would like to add or any suggestions you might ...

Looking to the future now, Mr Baggott, first of all, do you have any suggestions for how we preserve the good, the full, frank and effective communication between the police and the media but at the same time maintaining a sufficient degree of oversight, avoiding the use of the world ...

Yes. Would there be any lessons learned from your experience dealing with that investigation that you would wish to share with the inquiry or have you covered everything that you wanted to say about it?

-- the particular sensitivity, their particular obligation. The obligation applies always, but to remind them in that instance how important it is?

That's a way of focusing the officers' mind on the confidentiality --

Right.

I've also been asked by a core participant to ask you about the confidentiality agreement that you asked officers to sign. Do you feel that the signing of the confidentiality agreement added anything, because of course the people who were working for the investigation were already bound by a ...

I have been asked by a core participant to ask you whether you felt that you had the necessary tools to prevent or at least object to the misreporting in the press about Madeleine's disappearance and Leicestershire police's involvement.

Yes.

What response, if any, or reaction did you get to those letters?

"Since the beginning of May 2007 my force, Leicestershire Constabulary, has had the responsibility for co-ordinating the UK law enforcement response to Madeleine McCann's disappearance. As the Chief Constable I have become increasingly concerned regarding the continued speculation and rumour surrounding this investigation, hence this exceptional request of you ...

It is, sir, that's quite right. The first one is page 55384, tab 11.

You wrote a letter to editors that's at tab 10 of our bundle, 55383. Amongst who was this circulated, this letter?

Over the page on 55408, internal numbering 24, third paragraph down:

"Due to the vast quantity of local, national and international media that descended on the village of Rothley, Leicestershire, where the McCann family live, a large policing operation had to take place to ensure that villagers were able to ...

And a decision was made at an early stage that you would comply, or the police in this country would comply with the requirements of Portuguese law, including the Judicial Secrecy Act.

I said that I would return to the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Mr Baggott. You deal with this at question 50 of your statement. That's at page 55407. There are two paragraphs I believe you've already covered, setting out that it was a Portuguese-led inquiry.

You would know about it if that were the perception?

Not at all, I'm guilty of it myself, but it's so the shorthand writer can take a full note.

Can I just remind you just to slow down a little bit.

Ms Young, what systems do you have in place to ensure that your department can't be accused of favouring one of the three main titles in Northern Ireland over the others? Is there anything specifically you do to ensure an even-handed approach? When I say that, to access to ...

At question 37 you give your view on what you consider might be the driving forces behind leaks, that's page 10320. You highlight that many are more likely to be inadvertent than malicious, that a driving force can be where a disgruntled employee is unhappy about something within the ...

Ms Young, you state that your department monitors public information to ensure that it's in line with what's been officially released and that you then report issues of concern to the Professional Standards Department?

Is there anything you want to add to that summary of the position as you see it?

One of those five investigations is still ongoing; is that right?

That officer faced a misconduct panel and was fined. And also an officer, the second case, provided unauthorised briefings to the press following an incident and he received a written warning.

Under question 32, you point out that there have been five investigations conducted into suspected leaks in the last five years. Only two of those were suspected leaks to the media specifically. One, an officer sending a text message to a journalist providing his opinion of the anticipated level of ...

You state under question 31 that the anti-corruption unit conducts periodic defensive operations proactively seeking evidence of any inappropriate contact with members of the media. Are those operations intelligence-led or are some purely speculative?

You identify it as a strategic threat, you say in your statement, but leaks are not something you consider are a major problem in terms of scale or scope.

Mr Baggott I would like to take you back to what you say in your statement about the McCann investigation but just before I do, if I can ask you about the question of leaks. You say in your statement that you take unauthorised disclosures of information very seriously.

Yes.

Mr Baggott, before I move on is there anything you want to add about off-the-record conversations?

And you say that they've done that in the interests of justice. Is that to prevent prejudice to a criminal trial, that sort of thing?

I won't ask you to elaborate on this, but you do make the point that there have been occasions where the media have recognised that there's a risk in publishing some information and have voluntarily not published that information?

So they will publish the article and then you have to contact them and try to undo the damage if you can?

Or invariably?

And generally you receive the response that you're seeking?

Indeed. Under question 45 you say that the media do comply with requests not to publish or broadcast material when asked and then you give a series of examples, one of which I was going to ask you to tell us a little more about, and that is when there ...

Apart from that instance, I think you say in your statement that the media honour the basis on which you provide that information when you say that it's off the record?

One of the examples you give of providing off-the-record briefings was to deal with rumours that the Chief Constable was unhappy in his post and wanted to return to England. Do you want to develop that example and how effective that was?

In your statement you give a number of examples, practical examples, of where you've used off-the-record briefings. One was relating to a rumour that the Chief Constable -- I don't know whether that was Mr Baggott or Sir Hugh Orde -- in fact, I think you arrived after Sir Hugh ...

Does that explain why you express the view that it's critical that that form of contact takes place where appropriate?

I see. I move on to the topic of off-the-record conversations or briefings. Ms Young, first of all, what does "off the record" mean to you in this context?

So if a member of your staff -- if you became aware that a member of your staff were developing a friendship with a member of the media, what action would you take?

No scope at all?

Ms Young, on a related question, you express confidence in your witness statement that your staff understand the boundaries of an appropriate relationship with the media. What in your view are those boundaries that you train your staff to adhere to?

Right. Is this a policy that is under review or will be reviewed?