I mean, I suppose the only time maybe recently it might have happened was with Celebrity Big Brother, when we all do interviews together, but I can't remember at all a deal being done with all the newspapers and OK! because we always want to have our interviews and ...

I don't --

Not really, because OK! is so separate.

Yes.

We discussed this yesterday, and I -- I cannot 100 per cent say that I wasn't, but I wasn't -- when we discussed it, I didn't think, "Oh my gosh, yes", at all, so probably if I cannot remember --

I don't know if privacy laws were different then, I don't know, but from just looking at them, I feel personally I wouldn't have done that. And obviously she's a very private person and you have to respect that.

With publishing photographs of children on beaches ...

In relation to JK Rowling, I looked at those photos yesterday -- obviously I wasn't editor at the time -- and they did look hugely private although she's on a public beach, but I absolutely wouldn't have published them myself.

Yes.

Yeah.

No, I don't think the questions are being precious at all, I totally understand her point of view. But I do feel that in this day and age I will protect this magazine because it's my baby and I love it so much and I want it to ...

I suppose, but it's just discussing what they like as a couple. We haven't put "exclusive" anywhere on Catherine's royal birthday.

So we spoke to the palace. I think it was quite late in the week we managed to get information on the -- because all the papers and magazines were speculating that Harry and Pippa were throwing this ridiculously mad party and we spoke to the palace, who told us that ...

Yes.

That we have detail inside.

We had spoken to the palace and found out --

Well, after I did this cover, I spoke to legal and we just made sure that these were both in the same colour, so the story would relate to each other, and also if I was going to be misleading, I would have pushed that much further up so it ...

Yeah.

I can see how some people might envisage that, but --

Well --

I don't.

Absolutely. I mean, it wasn't an exclusive interview and we didn't put that in the magazine itself.

What happened was we -- what's actually good about this case actually to bring it up is the way things were changed in the magazine. Like many magazines and publications, we buy interviews from agencies who are doing round-table chats when celebrities want to promote their films. So we bought ...

Yes.

I think that is very important.

From the point of view as editor of this magazine, I have to sell the magazines and make sure whatever's on the cover is inside the magazine, because we love our readers and we don't want our readers buying the magazine and then looking through it and thinking ...

I can't, I was on maternity leave, but I looked at it yesterday. It was the week before the wedding and I think there was a DPS spread that the editorial team had done on the build-up and then a spread on the invitation, but, yeah, I can understand ...

Yes, I have that.

It was the biggest selling issue ever of OK! magazine.

Yes.

Yes.

No, it doesn't happen.

Definitely. I can't remember anything happening since this. If Rosie has a wedding or we have a wedding, I can't remember any problems.

Like People magazine, OK! has worked very closely with People because often they have weddings or want our weddings or vice versa, but I do -- I am sometimes extremely shocked by some of the foreign covers, especially the crazy Italian and French covers which are quite graphic. And also I ...

I'm not critical of the people on the PCC at all, because as I keep saying, I've had a very good relationship with them, but maybe it needs to be more of a wider -- people from different areas of the general public. I don't know.

Mm.

Right.

Well, it is a perception as I think someone said yesterday it's marking your own homework. That's what people might perceive it to be, so it might need to be a bigger organisation, but that's all I can say about it, to be honest.

Well, obviously my relationship with the PCC has been very good, and I used to meet with them and as soon as we'd get anything from them, I'd read this thoroughly and adhere to it.

It's very difficult, isn't it, because I feel that I don ...

No, because we don't really -- they wouldn't really have much to do, I think.

I would say I don't know for absolute certain, but I would say maybe twice a year.

Yes, the Hollywood Gossip pages which are quite close to the front, normally over two or three pages are the gossip pages so we put it in there.

Yes.

If it's a complaint from a celebrity, then that comes to me and it's discussed with my team and the legal department. Occasionally that will result in an apology, which we will agree with the celebrity where it will be placed often in Hollywood Gossip.

Yes.

Yeah, because obviously now we're not part of the PCC, so what we do in the magazine, they will come in to myself or my deputy editor, Christian Guiltenane, and he deals with them. Often it's a case of him just ringing up the person who's complained ...

Yeah.

Probably about a handful.

The subs make sure they check it and make sure they can, you know, check that it's factual and everything.

That's Sean Lynn, who has been with us for, gosh, probably about 15 years, and he gets that from anything such as press releases, celebrity tweets, American websites, anything like that, American TV shows, and then that is seen by our subeditors who check all the facts and then ...

Which is over two or three pages.