I'd simply like to say that from the point of view of my organisation, we really rely on trust and confidentiality, and we do deal with people from all sides of a very difficult situation in Northern Ireland, and when I first heard that these documents had been compromised ...

In fact, the material that came into Mr X's possession had appeared in the newspapers as long as three years earlier, so it clearly wasn't about simply trying to find a story to put in the paper.

That's right.

That's right, sir.

That's right.

Indeed. I should perhaps say that I'm not in a position to know whether my own computer had been hacked because I no longer have that computer in my possession and when I replaced it, the hard drive was wiped and the computer was given away to a charity ...

They were both very confidential and sensitive, yes.

What the police showed me was attachments to emails that I had sent to Ian Hurst. They didn't show me the actual emails. It looked as if whoever did the hacking had extracted the attachments and that's what they were interested in, not my covering note, as it ...

Yes.

I was aware that his computer had been hacked, but I didn't know that correspondence from me was involved until that stage.

That's right.

Thank you.

We're absolutely not political. We work with people on all sides of the community. Our own criteria is whether their human rights have been affected by the conflict or not, and we'll assist people from all walks of life who have sadly been affected by the conflict.

Yes. It was set up in 1990. We're a registered charity and we monitor the human rights dimension of the conflict and the peace process in Northern Ireland.

Yes.

Jane Sarah Joy Winter.

Thank you.