Thank you.

Thank you.

They don't take any notice of me, but I have.

I have.

(Nods head)

I have a conditional fee arrangement. I couldn't do it otherwise.

Yes.

Okay. Nothing happened. After the Mulcaire and Goodman were jailed and nothing happened and I was getting sicker and sicker, I again heard the story in -- I think it was 12 July 2009, a report on the Today Show that the Guardian had published this story about phone hacking and ...

Do you want to do that later?

Well, it started -- when Sienna Miller kept going to court to try to get access to her phone records, I thought that -- that is out of sequence. Can I -- because I had actually given an interview to the Guardian in --

No. I think the letters are in the exhibits.

No. I -- they didn't respond to -- when I wrote to them back in August, I emailed them back in August about: "Look, obviously I'm totally vindicated. I didn't do this." No, I had no response. So I wrote again to Commissioner Blair.

No.

I haven't had much contact with the police in my life, so I wasn't sure how you did that, but I -- I looked up on the Internet and our closest police station was Wandsworth. So I called the number for Wandsworth and nobody answered and I tried again ...

Yes. I heard it early on the Today programme, and then suddenly my phone -- I started getting emails and texts from people and then a call from a girlfriend who's a lawyer, saying, "Oh my God, that's what happened. You know, that's why -- you have to ring ...

Never again.

"Light".

No.

Yes.

Yes.

She was very friendly and she asked me what was the name of the -- it was the week before I was made redundant and I didn't have it in my mind and I looked it up and told her what it was, who the person was, and she thanked ...

Yes, yes.

Well, I've never been sick. The only time I've ever -- I got hurt playing tennis in 1993 and had to have spinal surgery, but that was a sporting accident, but I've never been sick. I had actually never missed a day of work at Chiltern. But I ...

Yes.

Well, you know, you take those things more personally. Even now, I was at a meeting recently and they wouldn't say the name of the client when I was there and I thought: "They still don't trust me." I'm just being pathetic, I know, but at the ...

It had, it had a very serious -- and because I'd become ill, I couldn't -- and I was falling down all the time, I couldn't -- it was not a really good advertisement for yourself looking for a new job.

Well, initially, you know, I wasn't exactly living from month to month. It wasn't --

Yes, they said in their documents to me I'd been indiscreet, that the client didn't trust me, despite the fact that no other client said this.

No, because they immediately -- I mean, I do a lot of work in transfer pricing. They immediately hired a new transfer pricing person.

On 10 March, they made me redundant. I had no warning, nothing. I was made redundant, and because I was involved -- you know, because I was an expert witness for the IRS, I was -- frankly, who are you going to be more scared of: the IRS or Chiltern? So I ...

In the -- after she fired me, the following week, I was called in for a meeting and told that I had to replace -- that Elle was going -- she didn't want to keep her business there any more and I had to replace that business. But she was such a ...

Well, I had deadlines coming up for the -- you know, we were due to go to trial for the Glaxo trial in the -- sort of in the autumn of 2006, so I had a lot of work on.

Well, I'd kept my side of the bargain. I came back with a clean bill of health with a thing that said I was suffering from "adjustment disorder", which apparently means "stress" in American psychiatric hospitals, and -- and so I came back. I was back in the office on ...

Well, for the first ten days you're sort of in this hospital thing, where they -- there's no plugs in the hand basin in case you drown yourself in the hand basin, and all these strange people -- I mean, I've never even had a cigarette in my life ...

I was.

I wasn't going to go. When I went home that night, it was 11 -- as you know, I'm Australian. There's 11 hours' difference this time of the year because of daylight saving, and I rang my oldest friend, who's a lawyer, but also at that time ...

The meeting was set for 10. My husband and I got there just before 10 and Elle came downstairs -- there's sort of an atrium thing. She came downstairs and said she wanted to see me on my own. Again, I was very stupid, I shouldn't have done that ...

Yes. That was a big mistake. I called -- obviously I've always worked with lawyers and I know lots of lawyers and I called friends, and one of them on the Wednesday evening organised for me to see an employment lawyer, and he said what every other lawyer I talked ...

Yes, at Manches around the corner.

No. No.

It was horrible. He was rude to me, he was rude to the -- his potential clients, my existing clients, and then he left. So we all went out to dinner in St Christopher's Place at Pizza Express and then I went home.

Now, that day I had been very ...

Yes, that was -- as I said earlier, celebrity work was a very small part of my case load, and I had worked for Allied Domecq for a long time on the Courvoisier account. I'd written the original strategy for it back in 1996 and then in about 2004 I ...

Absolutely not. As I said, the only journalist I'd ever spoken to was Guy Dennis from the Telegraph at the Drapers conference in November 2004 and the girl from the -- whose name escapes me, who wrote that article in the Accountancy Age, but I'd never -- I didn't ...

He told me that -- it was only about three days before I was due to have afternoon tea with Suzy Menkes, and he told me that I was not to go, that Elle didn't want me to go, that she was not prepared to have me speaking to the ...

Yes.

I was, who I had appointed for her, yes.

Yes. Can I just go back? It was after -- about three weeks after the flattering article in Accountancy Age was published. We had a big event at the Wallace Collection in Manchester Square, and we had about 200 guests and we launched a range of body products for Elle, and ...

I on several occasions attended meetings with the family lawyer.

I used to attend --

It was just that we were planning the -- she thought there might be litigation and we were planning it and I was saying to her -- and this is what we were discussing on the phone -- that she needed to tell the lawyers everything, because if you don't tell the ...