Oh, absolutely. This particular quote was somebody saying:
"I thought the story was appalling. I thought all along that it was a ludicrous exercise with no logic whatsoever and I felt very ashamed about it. I talked to a senior reporter and said I wasn't very happy about it and he said to keep my head down and say nothing. He said I'd lose my job if I raised it with anyone more senior to him."
As I said, I was virtually -- you know, they would not speak to me at all if I was to say what newsrooms they came from even, so I can't say any more than that. But that was a journalist who is no longer working for that newsroom.
I think what people felt was that you get in there and you keep your head down and you prove that you can deal with anything.
Another one I spoke to said that the only time he had ever been able to exercise what is laughably called the right of conscience was once he was able to point out to a more senior editor that actually this particular story affected his family directly and he was allowed not to write it.
But these stories, they just -- as I said, they fell out. They were not very hard to find, but people would only say it if I promised not to mention their names at all, ever.