The transcripts of the official inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the press. More…

I certainly buy the idea that public interest defences can have a big influence in changing culture. I just make two points. The first is that it's often said that, you know, when something's illegal, the law deals with it, but the process by which, if you'll forgive me, the law deals with some of the problems that we're facing is imperfect. If you look at the case --

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