I'm moving now to page 19 of your witness statement, paragraph 67. You say:
"After controversy surrounding the activities of private investigators emerged in earnest in 2011, I was verbally instructed to halt the use of such investigators by Mirror Group managing director Mark Hollinshead. This was communicated verbally to our content desk executives by myself at the first available opportunity."
Does it follow that private investigators were used up to 2011 by the Daily Mirror?