The transcripts of the official inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the press. More…

Yes. He'd already realised -- obviously, you'll go into more detail when Mr Owens gives evidence but he realised that it wasn't in the public interest at some stage and he didn't even report his meeting to the news desk, and -- so the news desk were also unaware of this until the Guardian contacted us. And even if it had -- I would just like to say this story would never have been published.

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