It varies a great deal. So sometimes you won't hear from him for weeks, then occasionally there will be things that are happening and you'll get a couple of calls in a week. And usually that is driven by the news. So in the run-up to Christmas, we spoke quite often because he was very interested, as was I, in what was happening in the eurozone. He'd heard certain things he wanted to talk about. He wanted to know how I saw things. So in that context, he'll call and we'll discuss that, as well as other things.