I try to meet with them pretty regularly, by which I mean once every few months, once every six months, and -- I've noticed the fact that this has been an issue that has come up regularly in the Inquiry and I think I'd like to make the point that for journalists, access is very important. It's important to speak to the people that you write about to find out what's going on. Sometimes it will be to make the case to them when it comes to your criticisms of them, your questions of them, your complaints about the way in which they're handling things, and to give them a forum to answer to. I have no doubt they have their own agenda when they see us. I think I do, and I hope my journalists regularly speak to politicians and people of power and influence and do so to pursue journalistic lines of inquiry.