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Oh, I see. (Pause)

All I can say to that is that's not been my experience. My experience is that the subject of the conversations that we've had are always the matters of the day, that actually when we get in the room, the conversation that you have with the prime minister or the chancellor or the leader of the opposition is: what direction are they taking the economy, what do they think they should or shouldn't be doing on issues of policy. It's -- I'm just racking my brains, but I think it's safe to say that that's never been the subject of conversations that I've had with politicians.

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