I think the suggestions about the Reynolds defence enhancement for any organisation signed up to a new system I think looks good on paper but would have to be demonstrated in fact. I think Mr Desmond was up last week. The root of his decision to be outwith the system is a financial one and the thing that will compel him to come within the system will be a financial one as well. The morals and the ethics of it all are not part of that process.
I think that without a compelling reason to be within the system that's not statutorily binding, it's difficult to see how that can be cracked until it can be proved that actually being outwith the system costs you money. That's the thing which the Reynolds defence attempts to deal with that.