We're soon going to come to those points, but just an insight, Mr Kampfner, that the two international European examples you provide us with, 54672, the French privacy example and then the Hungarian experience -- can we try and summarise the position thus in relation to France, because you're the first witness, I think, who's given us an insight into this. Under article 9 of the Civil Code, which was introduced by amendment in 1970, there is a general right to privacy. That's just one sentence in the code and the courts have interpreted that, particularly the higher courts in France, quite restrictively. You require a good and solid justification to breach that right and you give us an example of the Meteron(?) secret diaries case; is that correct?