I don't think that was the case and that's not how our legal team presented it to me. Mr Gashi would be shown to be discredited in seconds if he appeared in court. I think in one court case -- he even turned up in a court case to do with a story about red mercury where he stood in the witness box and admitted that he'd lied, made up a false allegation about me. When he was challenged why he had lied, he said, "Look, I don't know."
So on the basis of Gashi, it's a bit unfair to criticise that story. In essence you're saying the police got it wrong, CPS got it wrong, Mr Justice Eady got it wrong but Gashi's right. That's essentially what you're saying to me.