Well, I could give you Coulson on the other one, but I'll leave that, but if it comes to my own government you're talking about, they did ask particularly -- the competition one, I think, was involved with us as well, but we believed that they could have a greater share -- monopoly usually was defined as 30 per cent -- they can is have a greater proportion of that in the regions and the centre, and it was given to him. That was the Murdoch press, because that was important to them.
Now, he could legitimately argue, and I would accept, he's going to ask the government, the government of the time, "I want this", and if -- they can say "yes" or "no". I don't think that's corruption; it's just political influence of a considerable kind to get what is a legislative requirement.
And so that and other ones that I've mentioned are obvious. Why do they have these relationships? I mean, he's not interested in the dinners, is he? He just wants what he wants. That's: selling newspapers and influence over political parties and play a part in influencing the politics.