The transcripts of the official inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the press. More…

I acted as a kind of bed and breakfast from time to time, you know, get another story in the journalism, but I mean, look, these were two brilliant men who had different agreements about certain aspects of policy. Of course they disagree, and I would look at the record and say it was very good, but when they had a disagreement -- I'm a trade union negotiator from my past and I'd like to see the party going forward, the government balancing, and these two guys, you know, have got a disagreement, so --

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