Absolutely, sir. I see the point. The clear answer is the second. Let me be straight with the Inquiry: there were two names and addresses given of personal friends of mine who are not in public life at all. As it happens, one female, one male. They clearly -- the News of the World, Mr Mulcaire and others, were trying to stand up stories in relation to each of them. That's obvious from words used in the notebook, which I saw later. Absolutely no public interest in those people being in the public domain. Not politicians.