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Perhaps I should clarify. I think already at this stage, sir -- there was more than one conversation, but there was -- at some stage, clear information was relayed to me that the evidence was such that there was going to be a guilty plea because it was unarguable. I think that may have come later, rather than at the meeting when they went through the evidence.

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