It obviously points to some enquiries which could easily be made, and nobody is suggesting that at this stage -- there wouldn't, at that stage, have been any need for the police to contemplate that they would have an unlimited number of people to investigate as potential defendants. It seems to me that the number of defendants on the evidence that we now know exist was limited. It wouldn't have been an impossible task and you wouldn't have had to interview every potential victim to get a specimen case against the other people. So it's not -- the argument that it would have been unmanageable, that it would have taken a huge amount of resources is not credible. Police take sample specimen cases and you could have had a specimen count against the other defendants on the basis of six of us giving evidence.