It was never an issue for me that we -- we had contact that included the national media. We did speak to each other, we didn't always agree with each other, but that was always for me business time and I never had any feedback from them that they wanted to do it any other way. So I didn't need to be in a more convivial environment or atmosphere. We got on and we did business. I stress we didn't all see eye to eye on matters, but that was always done in what I saw as work time.
I think in some places it may be a bit more intense, particularly in the City of London here, but I was only just down the road in Essex anyway. It's not a billion miles.
I don't seem to have answered your question, I see.