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Well, they are difficult to deal with, but it's been made more difficult by the fact that there is a sloppiness of rules around what is permissible and what isn't, if that makes sense.

Now, on these five cases -- I wouldn't have been told about these five cases while I was Chief Constable because I was the discipline authority, if that makes sense. So if these had come to fruition from a misconduct point of view, I would have been the person in judgment ultimately. So it was only after I got the request to provide a statement that I found out there had been these five cases. That's perfectly normal.

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