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I don't think in the early stages -- and I really am here recollecting as best I can because my recollection has been overlaid by so many reiterations of this story -- but I think at the beginning it really wasn't clear how it had been done.

One of the things I remember being struck by at the time was that this was an offence of which nobody had ever really heard. It wasn't a direct interception of an ongoing, two-way telephone call, which was illegal under lots of provisions; this was something different, and I don't think people were very clear as to (a) how it was done, and then, as you're aware, there was a discussion about whether it was an offence at all.

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