To the first part, sir, the -- it's not common, because we were endeavouring to forge a new relationship. Prior to my appointment, the chief inspector had been the principle adviser to the Home Secretary about professional matters; this design was I was supposed to be more independent.
The actual newspaper article wasn't drawn to my attention, it was just the news item, as it were, I think there had been something on the radio as well as -- but I -- I have been around the block on these things. I have been through the Lawrence experience, Scarman inquiry and the rest, and just looked to me, just even crystallised that morning, it had some of the potential features of real difficulty. That's why it stood out as something of significance, potentially, if even if small part it were true.
Occasionally officials did discuss news issues, but I dare say not always to agree about the way those issues were addressed.