The transcripts of the official inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the press. More…

I guess it would vary. It would vary. I mean that particular officer, who's just again been convicted of corruption, very difficult individual to deal with, not only for journalists but for police forces, police authorities, anyone who challenges his view on the world. And I had to move very delicately to gather information on that case. An extremely litigious man, extremely litigious. And we -- as far as I'm concerned, the Daily Mail -- what we did in not being -- in challenging that man and revealing details about what he was up to was hugely in the public interest, as was our -- my revelations, my colleague revelations about the cowardice at Scotland Yard, the senior officers who were scared of him, they were scared of him, they were scared of him.

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