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I think it started because I would talk to his DPA at the time, and we got on well, and I think I met Sir Paul, who's now Lord Condon, of course, through her at functions and it just sort of grew out of what I would be talking to the DPA about, and then I think it was suggested that we meet and we did. And we got on well.

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