The transcripts of the official inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the press. More…

So what you just explained to us -- if we look at page 6 of your statement, our page 18316, when you say, more or less in the middle of the page, you very much regarded it as part of your duties as the deputy editor of the News of the World to forge and maintain relations with senior police officers in the interests of your readership, is what you've just been telling us, the example you've given us, really part and parcel of that?

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