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May have been. But, to be fair to me, I have to say that -- you know, Sir John hadn't been in London for a long time when he came back. I had, like probably many other journalists -- I was the deputy editor of the Sun at the time. The Sun had just been part of electing a Labour government, a major part of this. We were generally quite well connected to the new Labour government. It was a very interesting time and there was a lot of interaction in every area between the press, government, Whitehall, et cetera, et cetera, and, you know, I -- he -- John Stevens mentioned, for instance, Lord Ali, me introducing him to Lord Ali, because I knew that he was anxious to widen his circle of acquaintance and of -- understanding of different people. Lord Ali is an old friend of mine and so I introduced them and they got on very well.

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