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You say you recall on one occasion in late 2005 -- that's at the bottom of the page -- that you were instrumental in the release of footage which was broadcast on the News of the World website of the effect that the shoe bomb which failed to detonate would have had in the event of being successful:

"[You were] persistent with my advice to Hayman that this footage would have a profound effect if released into the public domain, as a result of which he provided it to the News of the World."

So this was an example perhaps of you getting information from Mr Hayman in the form of evidence -- here, real evidence -- which you could use in your newspaper; is that fair?

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