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I think -- yes, if you boil it down to that. I think at the time of the conference, looking at Mr Williams' notes, I don't think we had all the information at that point, because there's a reference to "work out a benefit figure later", and I note from the documentation that you -- to which you drew my attention, there was the statement of information, the conventional statement of information provided by the prosecutor in the Proceeds of Crime Act case, and there was also a defence response to that, in which the defence stated that Mr Mulcaire had received payments under the retainer for legitimate work and they were contending that the payments in respect of the interception were those he received under the pseudonym of Alexander, which amounted to £12,300, and I think the conclusion by the time of the hearing before Mr Justice Gross was that I took the view that that was the appropriate approach to take.

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