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Well, I think I would say that it depends on the relationship. Again, if they've had personal relationships, then no, but the question is: was there an attempt to influence policy or was policy influenced through those meetings? I think that's the crucial question. So, you know, I don't mind how many times who met who. It's just whether that key is being -- whether there's been policy influence.

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