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Well, I think it was referring to the way appointments were made to the PCC, because they were done very untransparent manner and nobody -- the public certainly don't know, but even I didn't know how the appointments were made. So I think it needs to be done in a way that's understandable, at least to the industry and to those members of the public who care to find out. So it needs to be appointed not by the industry, so -- to make it independent of the industry, because as far as I understand, the present chairman is appointed by -- well, I know he is appointed by the industry --

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