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I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. I mean, I think his -- again, I think, taking into context here, there was a huge amount of official submissions and formal communications around this, but I don't know -- I don't know the answer. I don't know what he said to those people on the telephone, if it was the telephone, because I have I obviously just wasn't there.

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