That's what I was going to say. He may want to leave the hot spot.
Sir, I indicated before the luncheon adjournment in the light of Mr Gilmour's evidence this morning that there is an application or an issue that I would wish to raise. It's been forewarned to some extent in Mr Crossley's email of last week, which I hope has been drawn to your attention since I mentioned this matter before lunch.
Mr Crossley's email was, for understandable reasons, directed at the evidence and questions that might be asked of Mr Gilmour. But it does indicate in general terms the nature of what I'm seeking, although the issue is more targeted.
Can I just briefly explain the context? As the core participant victims have repeatedly stated, throughout modules 1 and 2 of this Inquiry, the unlawful and systematic trade in the mining of people's private information which was revealed by Operation Motorman is as good as any example of the culture, practices and ethics of the press. I say as good as any example because perhaps in contrast to what we've seen in relation to the News of the World and its use of voicemail interception, we have evidence here, hard evidence, that this practice of buying people's private information because these people would not give it willingly, or just because a newspaper could, thanks to people like Mr Whittamore, that this practice was widespread throughout Fleet Street, and because particular offenders such as Associated Newspapers, who were top of the table, claim never to have used the similarly dark art, we say, of hacking.
Again, unlike the investigation into the interception of voicemails, which was rife at the News of the World, the Inquiry's hands are not tied because of a fear, understandable as it is, of prejudicing a criminal investigation and which as you yourself, sir, said may take so long that we may never, heaven forbid, reach part 2 of this Inquiry. Your hands are not tied therefore in relation to what Operation Motorman reveals about the press as a whole, and it's therefore all the more important, I submit, that this is fully investigated under modules 1 and 2.
Let us not forget what Operation Motorman has shown us about the culture, practices and ethics of the press, and that is the endemic use across the board of unlawfully purchasing information, not just about the rich and famous, but about members of the public who have found themselves under attention from newspapers, whether through their own acts or unwittingly --