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Indeed, but the chapter leads to a denouement which you're presiding over at the moment. The excessive concentration of power which the Royal Commission on the press in 1947 under McGregor said was a real threat to British democracy, that was what was initiated in the seminal acts of 1981 and the value of the guarantees given there was zero, so that says a lot about the relationship between politicians and the press today, that not -- never since those pledges to Parliament were broken, never once has Parliament intervened. There's an inertia there and a collusion which is right in front of your faces today.

It seems to me that there's this tremendously clear thread connection between what happened then, the consequences for excessive power, and the nature, the nature of the ownership of that power. If it had been like BBC or the Thomsons, it wouldn't have mattered, but we have in Mr Murdoch a man of enormous competitive energies but who also was able to use that base of the Sunday Times and the Times, tremendously profitable eventually, especially the Sunday Times, also to get control of BSkyB.

BSkyB -- you may not want to go into that, my Lord, but I want to say that Mrs Thatcher again intervened to get around the law so that Mr Murdoch could get control of British SkyB. He had more than the share of media control that the law required, but he beamed this stuff in from the European satellite and everybody fell over, because they were terrified of him.

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