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We'll come onto that in a moment as we're working through the chronology. I want to finish off on paragraph 35. You explain that again on what was then known to ministers, this was properly an operational matter for the police:

"This perception was not confined to ministers but shared much more widely. During my time as Home Secretary I met with politicians, officials and members of the public on a regular basis and cannot recall the investigation being a live topic of conversation."

So how did you assess the perception if it wasn't being discussed?

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