I don't think it was, actually. This was very much about the impact of the -- because this was immediately after the election in Scotland. This was very much about Scottish independence. And I think it is a -- don't accuse me of subtlety here, but it wasn't just my interest in Scottish independence, it was Mr Rupert Murdoch's interest. He had a lively interest in the subject, and I'm pretty certain the bid wasn't discussed, actually. This was about Scottish independence and a variety of aspects of it.
I think Mr Rupert Murdoch was coming, as it were, anew to a subject in a sense. I think he finds it intriguing and that was very much the content of what happens now, basically.