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I was going to point that out. So the last chance was self-regulation. Over the page, we see, at paragraphs 24 to 26, the statutory complaints procedures and at 27 onwards, the press complaints tribunal that David Calcutt thought ought to be set up if self-regulation didn't work at the last chance.

Now, we have heard a lot of evidence about what happened with those, so I will not ask you. What I will ask you about is the debate which we have at tab 6. The minister was David Waddington, but it is right, isn't it, that you were his number two?

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