The transcripts of the official inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the press. More…

Yes, absolutely. But the code of practice says very clearly that the definition of the public interest is in the last analysis a matter for the Council and the ombudsman, rather than for the newspaper. And I could give you one or two examples of those again, if you're interested.

There was an occasion early on in our existence when a reporter obtained some information by subterfuge about a minor celebrity who had tragically died, and it was argued by the newspaper that the degree of subterfuge involved, which involved a hidden tape-recorder, it involved perhaps a misunderstanding of the function of the journalist as a journalist or as a friend of the deceased -- that it was held that this did not sufficiently -- was not sufficiently in the public interest for this subterfuge to be adopted.

There's an educative process going on on all sides in which the differentiation between what is in the public interest and what the public is interested in has to be maintained.

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