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Yes, that's right. No, that is right, and I think that's definitely -- I believe that, but I think we then need to notice that the benefit we're talking about here might not be benefit in any obvious sense of wellbeing or happiness. So I might benefit by learning I only have nine months to live, but even if that makes me much more miserable, even if I would have had a happier final nine months by not knowing it, I still think I benefit, but I think it's a rather morally loaded conception of benefit there. It is not necessarily --

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