Our tables are simplifications. All press self-regulatory bodies do involve some form of lay membership. The normal model in fact involves publishers, journalists or journalist associations and lay membership. They don't tend to be involved very early in the process, and you could make the argument that they tend to be bolted on rather late to add a bit of legitimacy. You saw in the case of the Press Complaints Commission gradually, over time, the number of lay members being increased and it's only relatively recently we have a lay majority on the council of the Press Complaints Commission.